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REVIEW: IGPX Immortal Grand Prix DVD


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Munchmunch





PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:59 am Reply with quote
Gotta disagree with the music. Those Ninjatunes tracks made that show for me
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:59 am Reply with quote
This sounds like a show i would have loved back when i was 12-14, along with Batman TAS, Batman Beyond, and Zoids.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:05 pm Reply with quote
From a personal standpoint, I can understand why Williams Street and Jason DeMarco moved heaven and earth to get this show out of tax writeoff hell. This show is the only anime that Toonami can claim to have created. They came up with the concept. They went and recruited the talent. They pushed the music. And DeMarco, apparently sick of how shounen treats romance, demanded a full romantic plot including characters kissing.

Then you watch the show and realize why it was written off in the first place. The acting is bad, the story cheese with little structure, the romance horrible (Korra would make the same mistake later and then people would realize as much as it's derided, shounen skips around romance for a reason), the music ear piercing, and the action lackluster. Anyone who wants to watch a good anime with racing is far better off watching Redline.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:17 pm Reply with quote
Always did love IGPX. It's a show you tend to remember well when someone brings it up.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:44 pm Reply with quote
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Additional Note: The Music grade below is for the I.G. Cut. The Toonami Cut grade would be one full letter lower.

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Music: B+

Well, this review just rendered itself invalid. Evil or Very Mad

Beatdigga wrote:
the music ear piercing

And the same could be said for this guy's review also. Twisted Evil
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Just-another-face



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:39 pm Reply with quote
Beatdigga wrote:
The acting is bad


Lol, no.

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Anyone who wants to watch a good anime with racing is far better off watching Redline.


Are you serious? Redline had less of a plot than anything else.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:51 pm Reply with quote
Redline was about the racing, but 2 hours, amazing looking racing, or 24-26 episodes, meh racing. I'd rather the quicker dose.

And I can't stand Michelle Rodriguez.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:03 pm Reply with quote
It had its flaws, but I do find IGPX a fun show to watch. I stil remember when they moved the series to that Friday 12am/11pm timeslot, which I am guessing it was in part due to low ratings and how they used the b-word twice while it first aired on pre-cancellation Toonami ? Oh the memories when the latter happened.
Upon rewatching it when Toonami aired it a year or two ago, I did feel like it's one of those shows that I can only watch every few years.

I know one of the things that bugged me the most with the series was the whole spoiler[ Liz and Takeshi ending up together at the end. I actually liked the Takeshi/Fantine relationship, due to the whole "love interest is on a rival team" angle, and kinda wished this happened more often in some shows (... That doesnt end in either one of the two dying or "Mwa ha ha I was just using you for ______!!"). I don't dislike Liz as a character or anything, and I honestly prefer her dub voice ofer the sub, but I dunno. Maybe if Takeshi was never with Fantine in the first place, I'd have liked that ending more. ]
And I don't blame River(?) for doing what he did in the second half of the series.

And I personally liked the Toonami version's music, even if I preferred the Japanese opening and ending songs that what Toonami did.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:04 pm Reply with quote
Beatdigga wrote:
From a personal standpoint, I can understand why Williams Street and Jason DeMarco moved heaven and earth to get this show out of tax writeoff hell. This show is the only anime that Toonami can claim to have created. They came up with the concept. They went and recruited the talent. They pushed the music. And DeMarco, apparently sick of how shounen treats romance, demanded a full romantic plot including characters kissing.

Then you watch the show and realize why it was written off in the first place. The acting is bad, the story cheese with little structure, the romance horrible (Korra would make the same mistake later and then people would realize as much as it's derided, shounen skips around romance for a reason), the music ear piercing, and the action lackluster. Anyone who wants to watch a good anime with racing is far better off watching Redline.


not quite. if it was Intial D, then yea i and a lot of the toonami faithful who became die hard otakus would agree, but redline was definitely bad to a tee.

also its only season 2's story was cheesy. should have ended at season 1. and its acting was definitely solid to say the least.especially with Blum as Cunningham. Though they definitely went a little over the top bringing in the hollywood actors to an anime series thinking this is a Studio Ghibi animated movie (which is some sense is in a strangle hold from Disney)

and while the romance in this series was to be desired (should have been Liz from the start) it was a lot better than korra's. and it got worse at series end which is why i didn't bother with season 4 since the romance for the end is basically a PR move by the creators to appease the LBGT community. it will definitely please yuri fans, but for other people,not a chance. so while IGPX's storylines and romances was stubbled, it was nothing compared to that.

Freyanne wrote:
It had its flaws, but I do find IGPX a fun show to watch. I stil remember when they moved the series to that Friday 12am/11pm timeslot, which I am guessing it was in part due to low ratings and how they used the b-word twice while it first aired on pre-cancellation Toonami ? Oh the memories when the latter happened.
Upon rewatching it when Toonami aired it a year or two ago, I did feel like it's one of those shows that I can only watch every few years.

I know one of the things that bugged me the most with the series was the whole spoiler[ Liz and Takeshi ending up together at the end. I actually liked the Takeshi/Fantine relationship, due to the whole "love interest is on a rival team" angle, and kinda wished this happened more often in some shows (... That doesnt end in either one of the two dying or "Mwa ha ha I was just using you for ______!!"). I don't dislike Liz as a character or anything, and I honestly prefer her dub voice ofer the sub, but I dunno. Maybe if Takeshi was never with Fantine in the first place, I'd have liked that ending more. ]
And I don't blame River(?) for doing what he did in the second half of the series.

And I personally liked the Toonami version's music, even if I preferred the Japanese opening and ending songs that what Toonami did.


true.though that is only for nostalgia. personally fans of this series who are also otakus will prefer the original japaneese version and the Uncut IG version of the series instead of the Toonami versions.

and you cant be surprised by that those two got together. that was way too obvious. however for river's case, it cause of what he did is the reason why he got a lot of dislike in the first place.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:42 pm Reply with quote
I love IGPX and have since it came out when I was in middle school.

With all due respect, this review seemed needlessly hostile and out of touch with the show's actual reception from anime fans.

The music the reviewer critiqued was wildly lauded by fans and viewers as the best part of the show. When the show came out there was a site where the music and links to buy the music were posted due to fan demand. The majority of people loved it.

Then the reviewer brings up how an anime, about racing/fighting giant mechs driven by teenagers, isn't realistic? I hope Naruto didn't serve as a shock when the ninjas started spitting out fire and didn't dress in all black. It's an anime. Not a documentary.

I personally bought all the original release dvds and the IG music was jarring. Some of it was alien and out of place. There was lots of eerie silence. I really regretted not getting the box sets with the Toonami version.

To those curious about the show, it is slow in pace yet it's an entertaining ride that's well acted. I loved the dynamic between Team Satomi and Velshtein.

Michelle Rodriguez and Haley Joel Osment act their butts off in this and the mood of the show is more suited to a live-action american drama.

I agree with another poster here about Fantine and how
spoiler[[it was disappointing how awkwardly the relationship with her was shoved aside. I wasn't against Liz and Takeshi but it was very obvious they knew the show was going to be cancelled and someone really wanted LxT together. Fantine and Takeshi had such a sweet dynamic and it was so refreshing to see a love interest who had her OWN interests and career]]
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:45 pm Reply with quote
jr240483 wrote:

true.though that is only for nostalgia. personally fans of this series who are also otakus will prefer the original japaneese version and the Uncut IG version of the series instead of the Toonami versions.

and you cant be surprised by that those two got together. that was way too obvious. however for river's case, it cause of what he did is the reason why he got a lot of dislike in the first place.
I never said/meant I preferred the Toonami edit version altogether - I just didn't think it's soundtrack was that bad. Really, I thought the Toonami OST was fitting for that version. I rather watch the Uncut dub version, personally. Granted, I say this as someone who has only seen four or five of the episodes in Japanese.

Oh no, I wasn't surprised AT ALL it happened, especially with all the obvious hints throughout the series. I just preferred the other pairing, as far as "this could get interesting, if done right" reasons.
For River, I understood him doing what he did because of
spoiler["If I can't shine on this team, I'll go to another team where I can" reasons. Granted, I dont remember if River ever goes back to Satomi or if he stays with his new one.] I still found him more interesting than the other Satomi support characters, save for Andrei(?- if I remember him correctly, story-wise). I forgot what happened exactly - what did River do that caused him to get a lot of dislike?
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The English "dub" had too many celebrities. It needed a strong, pure VA cast. Pure voice actors are the best.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:23 pm Reply with quote
Beatdigga wrote:
Redline was about the racing, but 2 hours, amazing looking racing, or 24-26 episodes, meh racing. I'd rather the quicker dose.

And I can't stand Michelle Rodriguez.


I actually like Michelle's voice lol. I like seeing her in movies too.

IGPX is great nostalgia, but probably one of the last shows I would ever buy (I rarely support the anime market which I need to change later when I have time).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:44 pm Reply with quote
limabeanicecream wrote:
The music the reviewer critiqued was wildly lauded by fans and viewers as the best part of the show. When the show came out there was a site where the music and links to buy the music were posted due to fan demand. The majority of people loved it.

Fair enough. I was never a big fan of the soundtrack during the original broadcast (but then, my appreciation for techno is low), so I like the I.G. Cut soundtrack a whole bunch more. Different stroke for different folks, I guess.

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Then the reviewer brings up how an anime, about racing/fighting giant mechs driven by teenagers, isn't realistic? I hope Naruto didn't serve as a shock when the ninjas started spitting out fire and didn't dress in all black. It's an anime. Not a documentary.

Think you should probably double-check what I actually wrote before criticizing. I had a problem with them not being shown in school given their ages, not with them being mecha pilots. (And yeah, I'm quite well aware that age has nothing to do with mecha piloting ability in anime.)

Concerning the oft-mentioned spoiler[Takeshi/Fantine relationship and it collapsing (and who Takeshi ended up with)]: Yeah, I was also disappointed by that whole turn of affairs but not surprised.
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Think you should probably double-check what I actually wrote before criticizing. I had a problem with them not being shown in school given their ages, not with them being mecha pilots. (And yeah, I'm quite well aware that age has nothing to do with mecha piloting ability in anime.)

Concerning the oft-mentioned spoiler[Takeshi/Fantine relationship and it collapsing (and who Takeshi ended up with)]: Yeah, I was also disappointed by that whole turn of affairs but not surprised.


Thank you for taking the time to respond. I went back and saw that you were right and I did misinterpret what you wrote about the "they are teenagers yet not in any form of school" aspect. I still stay with the line of thought that if this is set in a future where teenagers can be professional pilots, then one can't expect for the typical aspects of society to be reflected in the show.

I agree 100% with your thoughts on the demise of the Takeshi/Fantine relationship.
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